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The World We Want

Contributor: olympiakos7

Date: 2003-01-23 14:24:48

"Why exactly is Bush a tyrant? Has he used biological agents against his own people? Has he started any wars where more than a million people have been killed? Has he sent people to bus shelters to blow themselves up? Has he systematically targeted civillians?
Has he taken taxpayers money to build himself palaces while letting his people starve?
Let's try to use the word tyrant with a little more forethought."

Where to begin, first: those biological weapons were supplied by the US. Second: how many people did the US kill in Japan, Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan?
Third: No the don't send people to blow themselves up, they do it by dropping daisy cutter bombs from 30,000 feet on innocent civilians
Fourth:ask the native American or the African American wheather they have been systematically targeted.
Fifth: The US has spent trillions of dollars on their millitary yet in every city in the US there are starving, homeless, desolate people.

Let's not be so easily swayed by the American propaganda machine.

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Contributor: df

Date: 2003-01-26 23:50:07

Yes, this is well-said, in my opinion. The U.S. killed somewhere between 2 and 3 million people in Vietnam without so much as an apology. It depends on arms proliferation to prop up its economy. It has played a huge role in making the world a powder keg. It is setting a new policy of initiating pre-emptive war against any perceived threat to its supremacy. It holds huge stocks of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. It is undermining civil rights the world over in the name of freedom. It has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

I'd prefer to see Canada take the role of peace advocate. I was proud, for example, of the work Canada did to attempt to ban land mines. Certainly there is plenty more to be done in this kind of direction.

Even if Hussein is a villain (he is, no doubt), Canada's participation in a war would be only symbolic. It's America that has the well-tuned killing machine. We are only forced into participation to lend legitimacy to their war-mongering.

Better to build up our trade relations with other countries so that we are not so dependent on America. Better to put our weight behind peace than war.

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