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Canada's Military

Contributor: fatmomma

Date: 2003-04-12 02:33:29


Used to have: yes The Un inspectors destroyed 91% of Iraq's WMD as of December 1988. Who says so: Scott Ritter, US Marine and former hawkish weapons inpector.He stated that as of Dec/1998 Iraq is qualitively disarmed. It has no functional capacity to develop biological, chemical or nuclear WMD. He, also, stated that in l998, Clinton pulled out weapons inspectors that this is what is referred to as the expullsion of the weapons inspectors.
The Kurds were gassed when Iraq (with backing from the USA) was at war with Iran. There is some doubt on whether Iraq or Iran was using the chemical weapons that killed the Kurds and whether the Kurds were the target or caught between the other two.
Iraq was disarmed originally by UN inspectors. repeat as you did.
It will not be a better world for any one nation to rule the world. This particular situation we saw the USA using fraudulent reports to justify their claim of Iraq possesing WMD. They bribed and threaten other UN countries to attempt to get a favourable vote to carry out this war.
There were no WMD used by Iraq; none have been found.
I expect a country like our friend the USA to be honest and trustworthy; I did not like or appreciate the underhanded methods they used for justifying this illegal invasion of Iraq.
Their goal besides procuring the control of oil in Iraq appears to be destroy the credibility of the UN so that the USA can have more complete control over international affairs.
They used the threats of terrorism to the USA to build support for this war that has now suddenly become a quest to liberate the Iraqi people. Why this sudden rush to "liberate" Iraq when they are supposed to be pursuing the terrorists. Who is Osama Bin Laden. Now so seldom mentioned

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Canada's Military

Contributor: cfallon

Date: 2003-04-14 15:35:42


Essentially, because to liberate Iraq means:

1) You have the opportunity for a free press in the Arab middle east.

2) You have removed a man whose squandered the oil wealth of his country on expansionist dreams and killing his own citizens. Saddam's version of Baath ideology is expansionist and perverts Islam, like Osamma's fundamentalism, which only further fuels the so-called "clash of civilizations." You can tell me Saddam is not very religious himself, but I would tell you that Osamma doesn't come across as all that religious either.

3) You have removed a major backer of the dealth cult in Palestine which sends the best and brightest minds to blow themselves up while the cowardly old "spiritual" leaders chow down on figs all day long.

4) You create a situation of increased security for Israel which will enable us to force them to conceed settlements to the newly created Palestine.

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Contributor: fatmomma

Date: 2003-04-16 23:18:30


1 The Middle East appears to have a free press in Al Jazeera. (if those 3 attack on journalists were not proven to have been done for protection ; perhaps we can question the real freedom of press in the USA. I noticed yesterday the incident at Mosul quickly disappeared from news sites except Britains.
2. There is questions on whether these attacks on Iraq is evidence of Bush's expansionist ideas risking the lives of young military personnell.
3. Bush sends his young to do his dirty work while he and the military leaders are not there under fire.
4. Israel is equally responsible for
attacks between them and the Palestinians. They have killed 3x as many Palestinians as Israelis have been killed. They have recieved money, arms and backing from the USA to do their killings.
%. I do hope that you are correct and that Bush will force Israel to cooperate with the Palestinians and that the two peoples can live in relative peace and harmony. It seems that the Palestinian situation is a major stumbling block to getting Middle East countries to calm down and not feel they are being discriminated against.

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